Comments on: SyncEvolution 0.9 beta 1: Full-time Project, using Synthesis SyncML Engine http://www.estamos.de/blog/2009/05/13/syncevolution-09-beta-1-full-time-project-using-synthesis-syncml-engine/ About SyncEvolution, writing software and more. Sun, 04 Jul 2010 13:39:24 +0200 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.1-beta1 hourly 1 By: François Rey http://www.estamos.de/blog/2009/05/13/syncevolution-09-beta-1-full-time-project-using-synthesis-syncml-engine/comment-page-1/#comment-41504 François Rey Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:39:44 +0000 http://www.estamos.de/blog/?p=143#comment-41504 Anyone interested in having a KDE centralized sync tool should vote for this wish: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107681 I just posted a comment there crosslinking to this page, hoping for some synergy… Anyone interested in having a KDE centralized sync tool should vote for this wish:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107681

I just posted a comment there crosslinking to this page, hoping for some synergy…

]]> By: Patrick Ohly http://www.estamos.de/blog/2009/05/13/syncevolution-09-beta-1-full-time-project-using-synthesis-syncml-engine/comment-page-1/#comment-39504 Patrick Ohly Sat, 23 May 2009 14:04:15 +0000 http://www.estamos.de/blog/?p=143#comment-39504 Martin, after returning from my family time off in two weeks, I'll start working on such a desktop integration of the Synthesis engine. If you want to help or ensure that your own wishes are taken into account, then I suggest that you subscribe to the <a href="https://lists.moblin.org/mailman/listinfo/syncevolution" rel="nofollow">SyncEvolution mailing list</a>. Martin, after returning from my family time off in two weeks, I’ll start working on such a desktop integration of the Synthesis engine. If you want to help or ensure that your own wishes are taken into account, then I suggest that you subscribe to the SyncEvolution mailing list.

]]> By: Martin Fick http://www.estamos.de/blog/2009/05/13/syncevolution-09-beta-1-full-time-project-using-synthesis-syncml-engine/comment-page-1/#comment-39451 Martin Fick Fri, 22 May 2009 21:01:33 +0000 http://www.estamos.de/blog/?p=143#comment-39451 Thanks for the reply and suggestion. I really am looking for an open source solution though. "But the key component, the engine itself, is completely open source now and thus could be integrated into a desktop sync solution." Hmm, do you know of anyone planning on doing this? What would this take, is it something worth attempting on my own, or is this a major project? Thanks for the reply and suggestion. I really am looking for an open source solution though.

“But the key component, the engine itself, is completely open source now and thus could be integrated into a desktop sync solution.”

Hmm, do you know of anyone planning on doing this? What would this take, is it something worth attempting on my own, or is this a major project?

]]> By: Patrick Ohly http://www.estamos.de/blog/2009/05/13/syncevolution-09-beta-1-full-time-project-using-synthesis-syncml-engine/comment-page-1/#comment-39449 Patrick Ohly Fri, 22 May 2009 20:28:09 +0000 http://www.estamos.de/blog/?p=143#comment-39449 Martin, not all parts of the Synthesis server that you mentioned have been open-sourced. But the key component, the engine itself, is completely open source now and thus could be integrated into a desktop sync solution. In the meantime I suggest that you give the Synthesis demo server a try. It's as easy to run as the Funambol server and if you don't like the data formats it supports out of the box, then you can change the XML configuration, which is the part which defines the data formats (see <a href="http://lwn.net/Articles/333441/" rel="nofollow">this LWN article</a>). Martin, not all parts of the Synthesis server that you mentioned have been open-sourced. But the key component, the engine itself, is completely open source now and thus could be integrated into a desktop sync solution.

In the meantime I suggest that you give the Synthesis demo server a try. It’s as easy to run as the Funambol server and if you don’t like the data formats it supports out of the box, then you can change the XML configuration, which is the part which defines the data formats (see this LWN article).

]]> By: Martin Fick http://www.estamos.de/blog/2009/05/13/syncevolution-09-beta-1-full-time-project-using-synthesis-syncml-engine/comment-page-1/#comment-39437 Martin Fick Fri, 22 May 2009 17:55:29 +0000 http://www.estamos.de/blog/?p=143#comment-39437 "The core engine is written in C++ and implements both the client *and* the server side of the synchronization. " Are you referring to this synthesis server: http://www.synthesis.ch/prod_server.php?lang=e&lay=desk It appears to not be open source? Or is there an open source part that you were referring to? If there is a workable free/libre/open source alternative to funambol, I would really love to find it! “The core engine is written in C++ and implements both the client *and* the server side of the synchronization. ”

Are you referring to this synthesis server:
http://www.synthesis.ch/prod_server.php?lang=e&lay=desk
It appears to not be open source? Or is there an open source part that you were referring to?

If there is a workable free/libre/open source alternative to funambol, I would really love to find it!

]]> By: SyncEvolution - The Missing Link : A different kind of launch http://www.estamos.de/blog/2009/05/13/syncevolution-09-beta-1-full-time-project-using-synthesis-syncml-engine/comment-page-1/#comment-39027 SyncEvolution - The Missing Link : A different kind of launch Fri, 15 May 2009 19:38:29 +0000 http://www.estamos.de/blog/?p=143#comment-39027 [...] already started writing about my full-time job in this blog, so I might as well expand the scope even further and add a private announcement: [...] [...] already started writing about my full-time job in this blog, so I might as well expand the scope even further and add a private announcement: [...]

]]> By: Patrick Ohly http://www.estamos.de/blog/2009/05/13/syncevolution-09-beta-1-full-time-project-using-synthesis-syncml-engine/comment-page-1/#comment-38945 Patrick Ohly Thu, 14 May 2009 07:17:16 +0000 http://www.estamos.de/blog/?p=143#comment-38945 Callum, thanks for your kind comments - "barely notice" is indeed how it should be. Jonas, the biggest difference between SyncEvolution+Synthesis and OpenSync is perhaps this: SyncEvolution+Synthesis is code which works for some of the things OpenSync tries to do and could be used to cover more of them (bottom up, regular usable releases). OpenSync started from the architecture and is still in the process of refining and implementing it, with <a href="http://www.opensync.org/ticket/1084" rel="nofollow">key aspects undecided</a>/unimplemented (e.g., conversion of calendar data between different formats) and no stable release at the moment. Both approaches are valid, although I prefer bottom up because one can test concepts earlier and gets to (intermediate) solutions faster. At the end of the day, it depends on the execution. We'll see what comes out of OpenSync. They are welcome to use the Synthesis source code if it helps them (we already discussed some ideas with them), but this is not something I have time for myself. Callum, thanks for your kind comments – “barely notice” is indeed how it should be.

Jonas, the biggest difference between SyncEvolution+Synthesis and OpenSync is perhaps this: SyncEvolution+Synthesis is code which works for some of the things OpenSync tries to do and could be used to cover more of them (bottom up, regular usable releases). OpenSync started from the architecture and is still in the process of refining and implementing it, with key aspects undecided/unimplemented (e.g., conversion of calendar data between different formats) and no stable release at the moment.

Both approaches are valid, although I prefer bottom up because one can test concepts earlier and gets to (intermediate) solutions faster. At the end of the day, it depends on the execution. We’ll see what comes out of OpenSync. They are welcome to use the Synthesis source code if it helps them (we already discussed some ideas with them), but this is not something I have time for myself.

]]> By: Jonas B. http://www.estamos.de/blog/2009/05/13/syncevolution-09-beta-1-full-time-project-using-synthesis-syncml-engine/comment-page-1/#comment-38911 Jonas B. Wed, 13 May 2009 20:41:07 +0000 http://www.estamos.de/blog/?p=143#comment-38911 What about Opensync? Is it not a valid way forward? How does SyncEvolution differ from this? What about Opensync? Is it not a valid way forward? How does SyncEvolution differ from this?

]]> By: Callum http://www.estamos.de/blog/2009/05/13/syncevolution-09-beta-1-full-time-project-using-synthesis-syncml-engine/comment-page-1/#comment-38910 Callum Wed, 13 May 2009 20:41:02 +0000 http://www.estamos.de/blog/?p=143#comment-38910 Congrats on the move to working on your hobby full time. Must be a really great feeling. SyncEvolution is one of those little gems that I'd be lost without, but I barely notice. The best way for software to be. Thank you very much for your hard work to date and your continuing efforts in the future. :-) Congrats on the move to working on your hobby full time. Must be a really great feeling. SyncEvolution is one of those little gems that I’d be lost without, but I barely notice. The best way for software to be. Thank you very much for your hard work to date and your continuing efforts in the future. :-)

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